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Talk:McCain's real Petraeus doctrine
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[edit] Bad, but overblown
As a member of the united states military, I believe your selected emphasis are both misleading and biased. For example, the Destruction Notice is a common phrase added to almost all military publications, even unclassified ones. This gives guidance to personnel using the documents on what to do if the information is about to fall into enemy hands. While I’ll concede that the actions proposed in the manual are reprehensible, kindly note that they apply only in foreign countries under hostile conditions. While all this would certainly be unconstitutional in the United States, these actions may very well be legal in the operating country. You would do a greater service to the community to let your readers decide for themselves the significance and importance of this manual. A more worthwhile read would be how such rights are being stripped from citizens here at home.
--Blue-shirt in the Navy
[edit] Other Versions
The 1994 version of this document is available at: http://calldp.leavenworth.army.mil/mhi/2005051007132363/31_20_3.pdf
The 2007 version of this document (renamed to FM 3-05.202, Special Forces Foreign Internal Defense Operations) is at: http://www.army.mil/usapa/doctrine/31_Series_Collection_1.html
[edit] U.S. is now being subjected to Counterinsurgency Tactics
The methods described in this manual are being used now in this country by its own government against the people of the United States. We, the people of the United States, are now our own government's "enemy."
- How long until they use these tactics here in the US? Will you fight?
[edit] This has nothing to do with General Petraeus
Just google the man, he does not support or endorse anything like this. The "Petraeus Doctrine" is a outline of how future conflicts - not a step by step instruction like this. I can't believe you even labeled this document this way. David Petraeus has done a fantastic job serving this country.
The Petraeus Doctrine is free, available here: http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-24fd.pdf
This is a terrible reflection of Wikileaks.
[edit] I agree -U.S. is now being subjected to Counterinsurgency Tactics
The manual looks
[edit] These tactics are even used in Blogs
To discredit well-intending groups from accurately spreading information. These "divisive programs create dissension, disorganization, low morale, subversion and defection within the [groups]." Squashing movements before they are launched. "Eliminating the infrastructure within an area achieves two goals: it ensures the government's control of the area, and it cuts off the enemy's main source of intelligence."
[edit] Petraeus Naive?
The above comments suggest that General Petraeus is somehow outside of the tactics outlined in this document. But it is an enormous stretch of the imagination to suggest that Petraeus doesn't have knowledge of these activities.
Furthermore, the Supreme Court has ruled against the arbitrary idea that the Constitution ends at the U.S. Border.